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	<title>Comments on: Wall Street Journal News Pages Starting to Show a Right-Wing World View</title>
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		<title>By: Hani Sarji</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/01/wall-street-journal-news-pages-starting-to-show-a-right-wing-world-view/#comment-971</link>
		<dc:creator>Hani Sarji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right when you write, &quot;dead people do not pay taxes. Their estates and heirs do.&quot;  

No one is arguing that a dead person can pay taxes.  At issue is whether the term &quot;state death taxes&quot; is politically charged.  You argue it has political implications.  

If the term &quot;state death taxes&quot; is political, why does the Internal Revenue Code use it?  Using your logic, Murdoch’s evil influence is evidenced in the IRC, or the IRC evidences a right-wing perspective.  Again, this reasoning is entertaining, but not sound.

&quot;State death taxes&quot; is an umbrella term -- some states have estate taxes, others inheritance taxes, and some have both.  

In contrast, the label &quot;death tax,&quot; when used in lieu of the term &quot;federal estate tax&quot; is politically charged.  Unlike the state level, there is only one federal transfer tax, an estate tax, so there is no need for the term &quot;death tax.&quot;  

In your analysis, you quote a passage referring to STATE death taxes, but then you marshal evidence regarding a term used in lieu of the FEDERAL estate tax.  The same term, &quot;death tax,&quot; used in different contexts can have different effects.  

What alternative do you have for the term &quot;state death taxes&quot;?  

Here are some suggestions to refer to the &quot;state ______ tax(es)&quot; 
- state estate tax
- state inheritance tax
- state estate and/or inheritance tax(es) 
The last one is the most accurate, but it is somewhat awkward.

I am trying to reason through the use of the term &quot;state death taxes.&quot;  If my analysis is wrong, please point out where and how.  I&#039;m interested in learning.  Perhaps I have a blind spot.  But please don&#039;t change the issue -- no one is arguing that dead people are paying a tax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right when you write, &#8220;dead people do not pay taxes. Their estates and heirs do.&#8221;  </p>
<p>No one is arguing that a dead person can pay taxes.  At issue is whether the term &#8220;state death taxes&#8221; is politically charged.  You argue it has political implications.  </p>
<p>If the term &#8220;state death taxes&#8221; is political, why does the Internal Revenue Code use it?  Using your logic, Murdoch’s evil influence is evidenced in the IRC, or the IRC evidences a right-wing perspective.  Again, this reasoning is entertaining, but not sound.</p>
<p>&#8220;State death taxes&#8221; is an umbrella term &#8212; some states have estate taxes, others inheritance taxes, and some have both.  </p>
<p>In contrast, the label &#8220;death tax,&#8221; when used in lieu of the term &#8220;federal estate tax&#8221; is politically charged.  Unlike the state level, there is only one federal transfer tax, an estate tax, so there is no need for the term &#8220;death tax.&#8221;  </p>
<p>In your analysis, you quote a passage referring to STATE death taxes, but then you marshal evidence regarding a term used in lieu of the FEDERAL estate tax.  The same term, &#8220;death tax,&#8221; used in different contexts can have different effects.  </p>
<p>What alternative do you have for the term &#8220;state death taxes&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Here are some suggestions to refer to the &#8220;state ______ tax(es)&#8221;<br />
- state estate tax<br />
- state inheritance tax<br />
- state estate and/or inheritance tax(es)<br />
The last one is the most accurate, but it is somewhat awkward.</p>
<p>I am trying to reason through the use of the term &#8220;state death taxes.&#8221;  If my analysis is wrong, please point out where and how.  I&#8217;m interested in learning.  Perhaps I have a blind spot.  But please don&#8217;t change the issue &#8212; no one is arguing that dead people are paying a tax.</p>
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		<title>By: off_leash</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/01/wall-street-journal-news-pages-starting-to-show-a-right-wing-world-view/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>off_leash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah yes, the Robin Hood argument. &quot;Society needs taxes&quot; so it&#039;s OK for the government to take assets to which it has no moral right. Most muggers have the same sort of belief.

While I accept the need for taxation, the fact that a large percentage of Americans pay no income tax whatsoever makes me think that the mugger analogy is not completely off the mark. People who don&#039;t pay income taxes still consume at least a proportionate share of government services.

(Yes, I realize I&#039;m not going to change your beliefs one iota.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, the Robin Hood argument. &#8220;Society needs taxes&#8221; so it&#8217;s OK for the government to take assets to which it has no moral right. Most muggers have the same sort of belief.</p>
<p>While I accept the need for taxation, the fact that a large percentage of Americans pay no income tax whatsoever makes me think that the mugger analogy is not completely off the mark. People who don&#8217;t pay income taxes still consume at least a proportionate share of government services.</p>
<p>(Yes, I realize I&#8217;m not going to change your beliefs one iota.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/01/wall-street-journal-news-pages-starting-to-show-a-right-wing-world-view/#comment-968</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the dead person&#039;s stuff once the person is dead. It becomes the estate&#039;s stuff, and the heirs&#039; stuff.

The government has no claim on anything, per se. But society needs taxes to function, and we&#039;ve chosen to tax income as one of those methods. The beneficiaries who receive vast sums -- remember, estate taxes don&#039;t even begin to kick in until estates get extremely large -- that they haven&#039;t earned in the first place are getting income. Why is their income more valuable than the income people make from actually working for a living?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the dead person&#8217;s stuff once the person is dead. It becomes the estate&#8217;s stuff, and the heirs&#8217; stuff.</p>
<p>The government has no claim on anything, per se. But society needs taxes to function, and we&#8217;ve chosen to tax income as one of those methods. The beneficiaries who receive vast sums &#8212; remember, estate taxes don&#8217;t even begin to kick in until estates get extremely large &#8212; that they haven&#8217;t earned in the first place are getting income. Why is their income more valuable than the income people make from actually working for a living?</p>
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		<title>By: off_leash</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/01/wall-street-journal-news-pages-starting-to-show-a-right-wing-world-view/#comment-967</link>
		<dc:creator>off_leash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m unclear on why the government should have a moral claim on a dead person&#039;s stuff. Kinda sounds like the &quot;bad Ebenezer Scrooge&quot; future where his servants take his bedclothes while his body is still warm - it&#039;s OK because like all rich people he is evil and his inherent evilness makes it acceptable to steal from his estate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m unclear on why the government should have a moral claim on a dead person&#8217;s stuff. Kinda sounds like the &#8220;bad Ebenezer Scrooge&#8221; future where his servants take his bedclothes while his body is still warm &#8211; it&#8217;s OK because like all rich people he is evil and his inherent evilness makes it acceptable to steal from his estate.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/01/wall-street-journal-news-pages-starting-to-show-a-right-wing-world-view/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice try, but you still haven&#039;t explained how dead people can pay taxes. Unless you have conclusive proof that you &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; take it with you, that will continue to be impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice try, but you still haven&#8217;t explained how dead people can pay taxes. Unless you have conclusive proof that you <i>can</i> take it with you, that will continue to be impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Hani Sarji</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/01/wall-street-journal-news-pages-starting-to-show-a-right-wing-world-view/#comment-965</link>
		<dc:creator>Hani Sarji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post is entertaining, but the argument is not correct.  See ;&lt;a href=&quot;http://threepointfive-45.blogspot.com/2009/11/basics-state-death-tax-is-politically.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Basics: &quot;state death tax&quot; is a politically neutral term&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post is entertaining, but the argument is not correct.  See ;<a href="http://threepointfive-45.blogspot.com/2009/11/basics-state-death-tax-is-politically.html" rel="nofollow">Basics: &#8220;state death tax&#8221; is a politically neutral term</a></p>
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