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		<title>By: Peter Laufer</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Laufer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You write, &quot;It’s my own version of “slow news” — an expression I first heard on Friday, coined by my friend Ethan Zuckerman in a wonderful riff off the slow-food movement. We were at a Berkman Center for Internet &amp; Society retreat in suburban Boston, in a group discussion of ways to improve the quality of what we know when we have so many sources from which to choose at every minute of the day.&quot;

May I immodestly suggest I used it well prior to the Friday you heard it.  &quot;Slow News&quot; is featured in the closing lines of my book, The Dangerous World of Butterflies (published by Lyons Press in May, 2009).  &quot;How nice to be in hot pursuit of a gorgeous creature,&quot; I wrote about the year I spent studying the butterfly underworld as a breather from  my usual beats of disasters, &quot;instead of responding to bad news, especially an animal that brings such happiness to so many of us -- and does no harm.  It&#039;s made me think of the slow food movement as a model.  Perhaps it&#039;s time to launch the slow news movement (yesterday&#039;s news tomorrow).&quot;

My context was different from Zuckerman&#039;s, but it sounds as if our motivations and goals are in sync.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You write, &#8220;It’s my own version of “slow news” — an expression I first heard on Friday, coined by my friend Ethan Zuckerman in a wonderful riff off the slow-food movement. We were at a Berkman Center for Internet &amp; Society retreat in suburban Boston, in a group discussion of ways to improve the quality of what we know when we have so many sources from which to choose at every minute of the day.&#8221;</p>
<p>May I immodestly suggest I used it well prior to the Friday you heard it.  &#8220;Slow News&#8221; is featured in the closing lines of my book, The Dangerous World of Butterflies (published by Lyons Press in May, 2009).  &#8220;How nice to be in hot pursuit of a gorgeous creature,&#8221; I wrote about the year I spent studying the butterfly underworld as a breather from  my usual beats of disasters, &#8220;instead of responding to bad news, especially an animal that brings such happiness to so many of us &#8212; and does no harm.  It&#8217;s made me think of the slow food movement as a model.  Perhaps it&#8217;s time to launch the slow news movement (yesterday&#8217;s news tomorrow).&#8221;</p>
<p>My context was different from Zuckerman&#8217;s, but it sounds as if our motivations and goals are in sync.</p>
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		<title>By: lurker</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-1004</link>
		<dc:creator>lurker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 05:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how do you explain how good the Wikipedia article about the Fort Hood shooting is?  That article had the basic facts by the end of the day, as you can see by checking it&#039;s history.  It also has excellent history on the shooter and is collecting more facts as they become available.  Transparency, fact checking and an abundance of interest beat traditional reporting hands down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how do you explain how good the Wikipedia article about the Fort Hood shooting is?  That article had the basic facts by the end of the day, as you can see by checking it&#8217;s history.  It also has excellent history on the shooter and is collecting more facts as they become available.  Transparency, fact checking and an abundance of interest beat traditional reporting hands down.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-1001</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hogwash.  Slow news is just as distorted.  The media, given time, distorted Ft. Hood beyond recognition.  Traditional media and traditional journalism is still built on the mob.  The mob is simply a smaller group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hogwash.  Slow news is just as distorted.  The media, given time, distorted Ft. Hood beyond recognition.  Traditional media and traditional journalism is still built on the mob.  The mob is simply a smaller group.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 19:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be right in the end, but shaking our heads sadly isn&#039;t much of an answer, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be right in the end, but shaking our heads sadly isn&#8217;t much of an answer, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Brenner</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>Brenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 17:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Persuading audiences to ... take a deep breath ...&quot;

You&#039;re kidding, right?  
Like, most people are going to be half as smart or considerate as you are? 
Like, they&#039;ll make the effort? 
And you can TEACH them how, 
because they want to learn to do it if they don&#039;t do it already?

I ~ and human history ~ shake my head sadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Persuading audiences to &#8230; take a deep breath &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re kidding, right?<br />
Like, most people are going to be half as smart or considerate as you are?<br />
Like, they&#8217;ll make the effort?<br />
And you can TEACH them how,<br />
because they want to learn to do it if they don&#8217;t do it already?</p>
<p>I ~ and human history ~ shake my head sadly.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter O</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to say that slow news is possible. Despite being a member of the three monitor club and a pretty heavy information consumer, I often don&#039;t hear about &quot;breaking stories,&quot; such as the Ft. Hood shooting, until a full day after the event. I&#039;ve spent a while refining my filters, and I&#039;m happy to say I can generally consume information published same day while avoiding most media hysteria. I didn&#039;t hear about balloon boy, for example, until at least 24 hours after the event when a couple of people published good commentaries on the media (like this one).

So, it&#039;s possible, but, I&#039;ll admit, hard. I would happily pay for a publication whose stated purpose was &quot;slow news.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to say that slow news is possible. Despite being a member of the three monitor club and a pretty heavy information consumer, I often don&#8217;t hear about &#8220;breaking stories,&#8221; such as the Ft. Hood shooting, until a full day after the event. I&#8217;ve spent a while refining my filters, and I&#8217;m happy to say I can generally consume information published same day while avoiding most media hysteria. I didn&#8217;t hear about balloon boy, for example, until at least 24 hours after the event when a couple of people published good commentaries on the media (like this one).</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s possible, but, I&#8217;ll admit, hard. I would happily pay for a publication whose stated purpose was &#8220;slow news.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you call a failure I call a work in progress. In some fields we&#039;ve never had as much solid journalism as we do right now, tech for example. (Cue tirade on how little this matters, etc.) Meanwhile all kinds of experiments are under way.

The decline of the record labels hasn&#039;t caused music to get worse, though music they produce is worse. More people are doing more interesting music now than ever.

Your A-list obsession is getting really tiresome, by the way. You might consider giving it a bit of a rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you call a failure I call a work in progress. In some fields we&#8217;ve never had as much solid journalism as we do right now, tech for example. (Cue tirade on how little this matters, etc.) Meanwhile all kinds of experiments are under way.</p>
<p>The decline of the record labels hasn&#8217;t caused music to get worse, though music they produce is worse. More people are doing more interesting music now than ever.</p>
<p>Your A-list obsession is getting really tiresome, by the way. You might consider giving it a bit of a rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seems too soon for me.&quot;

This is longstanding FAQ - &quot;When will it stop being too soon?&quot; When will it be acceptable to say - though nothing is ever completely determinative in the world, etc, etc. - that reasonable evidence is in, and it&#039;s a failure. If the answer is &quot;NEVER! It&#039;ll always be early days, we&#039;re just at the beginning, etc etc&quot; - that&#039;s an intellectual abdication.
(I cynically suspect the answer is that we can call something a failure only when it&#039;s clear that  A-listers can&#039;t make any money off it)

The &quot;therefore&quot; comes out of the background that, to be very simplistic since this is a comment not a book, there are only a very few existing workable models for large scale news. The blogged-down ad-supported model gives every indication of being worse than what preceded it. This failure is thus an argument for revisiting opposing models, such as public-sector support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seems too soon for me.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is longstanding FAQ &#8211; &#8220;When will it stop being too soon?&#8221; When will it be acceptable to say &#8211; though nothing is ever completely determinative in the world, etc, etc. &#8211; that reasonable evidence is in, and it&#8217;s a failure. If the answer is &#8220;NEVER! It&#8217;ll always be early days, we&#8217;re just at the beginning, etc etc&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s an intellectual abdication.<br />
(I cynically suspect the answer is that we can call something a failure only when it&#8217;s clear that  A-listers can&#8217;t make any money off it)</p>
<p>The &#8220;therefore&#8221; comes out of the background that, to be very simplistic since this is a comment not a book, there are only a very few existing workable models for large scale news. The blogged-down ad-supported model gives every indication of being worse than what preceded it. This failure is thus an argument for revisiting opposing models, such as public-sector support.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, different but definitely related. Glad to see this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, different but definitely related. Glad to see this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Thompson</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/08/toward-a-slow-news-movement/#comment-990</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, when I wrote about &quot;slow news&quot; in 2005, I was &lt;a href=&quot;http://snarkmarket.com/2005/721&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;talking about something different&lt;/a&gt;, but related, I think. At any rate, it makes for an interesting complement to your essay. I suspect you can see the seeds of my current fascinations in that post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, when I wrote about &#8220;slow news&#8221; in 2005, I was <a href="http://snarkmarket.com/2005/721" rel="nofollow">talking about something different</a>, but related, I think. At any rate, it makes for an interesting complement to your essay. I suspect you can see the seeds of my current fascinations in that post.</p>
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