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	<title>Comments on: Draft of Chapter One</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1177</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t exclude based on religion at all. But I question whether anyone who believes the Bible (which version?) is the literal word of God will be especially interested in evidence, as opposed to faith. Maybe I&#039;ll reword that heading to &quot;Who May Not be Interested in This Project&quot; --</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t exclude based on religion at all. But I question whether anyone who believes the Bible (which version?) is the literal word of God will be especially interested in evidence, as opposed to faith. Maybe I&#8217;ll reword that heading to &#8220;Who May Not be Interested in This Project&#8221; &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1176</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seth, in practice it&#039;s somewhere in between.

I know you&#039;ve written long critiques about what you see as risk-shifting. I&#039;ve written long replies saying a) we have no serious alternative; and b) there&#039;s nothing wrong with people taking a bit more responsibility for knowing what they&#039;re talking about. We will continue to disagree, fundamentally, on this issue. (Though I&#039;m thinking I should at least point to one of our exchanges in the book.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth, in practice it&#8217;s somewhere in between.</p>
<p>I know you&#8217;ve written long critiques about what you see as risk-shifting. I&#8217;ve written long replies saying a) we have no serious alternative; and b) there&#8217;s nothing wrong with people taking a bit more responsibility for knowing what they&#8217;re talking about. We will continue to disagree, fundamentally, on this issue. (Though I&#8217;m thinking I should at least point to one of our exchanges in the book.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1175</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, good point. Fixing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, good point. Fixing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor and the &#8220;mediactivization&#8221; of America &#124; Phxated</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1146</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor and the &#8220;mediactivization&#8221; of America &#124; Phxated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That&#8217;s Dan Gillmor&#8217;s goal in a new book, Mediactive. Gillmor, a professor at the Cronkite School, has posted the first chapter online. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That&#8217;s Dan Gillmor&#8217;s goal in a new book, Mediactive. Gillmor, a professor at the Cronkite School, has posted the first chapter online. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Finkelstein</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1145</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Finkelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Feel free to chime in with ideas about what I’ve missed and especially what I have gotten wrong.&quot;

Dan, I&#039;ve written long critiques, from the weakness of sermonizing to the fundamental wrongness of risk-shifting - see for example, the thread:

http://citmedia.org/blog/2008/10/03/cnns-small-mistake-apple-shareholders-big-one/

I suspect it won&#039;t do &lt;i&gt;anyone&lt;/i&gt; any good for me to re-iterate them. :-(

Let me just point to a column I wrote, with my concise summary of the New Media Landscape:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/17/seth-finkelstein-read-me-first

&quot;There&#039;s an old joke: in heaven the police are British, the mechanics German, the cooks French, the lovers Italian, and the Swiss organize it. In hell the police are German, the mechanics French, the cooks British, the lovers Swiss, and the Italians organize it. An Internet version might be: in theory, topic experts would supply our information, social networks would connect us for common humanity, and Google would organize it for authority. In practice, we get our information from the most attention-driven sites, social networks bundle us for marketing, and Google organizes it for ad sales.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Feel free to chime in with ideas about what I’ve missed and especially what I have gotten wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dan, I&#8217;ve written long critiques, from the weakness of sermonizing to the fundamental wrongness of risk-shifting &#8211; see for example, the thread:</p>
<p><a href="http://citmedia.org/blog/2008/10/03/cnns-small-mistake-apple-shareholders-big-one/" rel="nofollow">http://citmedia.org/blog/2008/10/03/cnns-small-mistake-apple-shareholders-big-one/</a></p>
<p>I suspect it won&#8217;t do <i>anyone</i> any good for me to re-iterate them. :-(</p>
<p>Let me just point to a column I wrote, with my concise summary of the New Media Landscape:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/17/seth-finkelstein-read-me-first" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jun/17/seth-finkelstein-read-me-first</a></p>
<p>&#8220;There&#8217;s an old joke: in heaven the police are British, the mechanics German, the cooks French, the lovers Italian, and the Swiss organize it. In hell the police are German, the mechanics French, the cooks British, the lovers Swiss, and the Italians organize it. An Internet version might be: in theory, topic experts would supply our information, social networks would connect us for common humanity, and Google would organize it for authority. In practice, we get our information from the most attention-driven sites, social networks bundle us for marketing, and Google organizes it for ad sales.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Delia</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1142</link>
		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

I only took a quick look at it and at this point I only have one general piece of advice: I&#039;d skip the politics! mainly because it&#039;s going to guarantee losing plenty of readers that would, otherwise, find your book useful.   

Maybe write a different book on that?

Also, I see no good reason for excluding readers basically based on religion (re: Who is This Project Not For?) -- yeah, you&#039;d expect logical people to find that evolution is a much more likely explanation  for how we got here but that doesn&#039;t stop one of the major players in deciphering the human genome, for instance, from being a devout Christian. No need to be bringing that up, really (people have very strong private feelings about it whether it makes sense or not and would probably take offense).

The only traditional verboten subject of public conversation you missed is sex.  Although, you could have worked it in as a joke: &quot;this book is not for prudes! and don&#039;t you dare read it...&quot; :) *kidding*

Delia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I only took a quick look at it and at this point I only have one general piece of advice: I&#8217;d skip the politics! mainly because it&#8217;s going to guarantee losing plenty of readers that would, otherwise, find your book useful.   </p>
<p>Maybe write a different book on that?</p>
<p>Also, I see no good reason for excluding readers basically based on religion (re: Who is This Project Not For?) &#8212; yeah, you&#8217;d expect logical people to find that evolution is a much more likely explanation  for how we got here but that doesn&#8217;t stop one of the major players in deciphering the human genome, for instance, from being a devout Christian. No need to be bringing that up, really (people have very strong private feelings about it whether it makes sense or not and would probably take offense).</p>
<p>The only traditional verboten subject of public conversation you missed is sex.  Although, you could have worked it in as a joke: &#8220;this book is not for prudes! and don&#8217;t you dare read it&#8230;&#8221; :) *kidding*</p>
<p>Delia</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Hurst</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1134</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the fourth paragraph, you mentioned that your findings &quot;begged these questions.&quot; That is untrue. Perhaps they prompted the questions, perhaps they inspired these questions, but they did not beg those questions, as begging the question is a logical fallacy.

Good luck with your book, can&#039;t wait to read more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the fourth paragraph, you mentioned that your findings &#8220;begged these questions.&#8221; That is untrue. Perhaps they prompted the questions, perhaps they inspired these questions, but they did not beg those questions, as begging the question is a logical fallacy.</p>
<p>Good luck with your book, can&#8217;t wait to read more!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1132</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>s/the last year of the first decade of the 21st century/2009/;

Brevity ftw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>s/the last year of the first decade of the 21st century/2009/;</p>
<p>Brevity ftw.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunshine Mugrabi</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/12/24/draft-of-chapter-one/#comment-1131</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunshine Mugrabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 21:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, all I can say is... sign me up! This is an inspiring project, and your observations are spot on. I recently attended a media party and found (as I spewed the next day on my blog: http://sunshinemug.blogspot.com/2009/12/media-is-it-industry-or-sinkhole.html) that there really do seem to be two kinds of folks out there. Those who see the meltdown as a chance for new opportunities, not to mention a major course correction, and those who are still trying to hang onto the planks as the ship goes down. I understand where the latter group are coming from, but I find myself squarely in the former category. This is such an exciting time... let&#039;s splash around and see what we create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, all I can say is&#8230; sign me up! This is an inspiring project, and your observations are spot on. I recently attended a media party and found (as I spewed the next day on my blog: <a href="http://sunshinemug.blogspot.com/2009/12/media-is-it-industry-or-sinkhole.html)" rel="nofollow">http://sunshinemug.blogspot.com/2009/12/media-is-it-industry-or-sinkhole.html)</a> that there really do seem to be two kinds of folks out there. Those who see the meltdown as a chance for new opportunities, not to mention a major course correction, and those who are still trying to hang onto the planks as the ship goes down. I understand where the latter group are coming from, but I find myself squarely in the former category. This is such an exciting time&#8230; let&#8217;s splash around and see what we create.</p>
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