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		<title>By: JS</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1437</link>
		<dc:creator>JS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this article. I think more schools should be thinking like this. I am a student majoring in journalism and I hate the &quot;track&quot; system. At first I thought I wanted to do news print then I changed my mind to magazine, then I even considered changing again to advertising or PR. I also took a class on photojournalism. I like all the areas and think that students shouldn&#039;t have to choose because all of these areas are shifting together, like mentioned in the article. One more change I&#039;d like to see in teaching journalism is, to start with the basics and build our way up. In my classes I feel like the professor would give us a lecture on a subject, then tell us ok go write a story. Then after writing the story they would tell us what we did wrong. I think we should know all the basics and work our way up to writing a well thought-out, researched story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this article. I think more schools should be thinking like this. I am a student majoring in journalism and I hate the &#8220;track&#8221; system. At first I thought I wanted to do news print then I changed my mind to magazine, then I even considered changing again to advertising or PR. I also took a class on photojournalism. I like all the areas and think that students shouldn&#8217;t have to choose because all of these areas are shifting together, like mentioned in the article. One more change I&#8217;d like to see in teaching journalism is, to start with the basics and build our way up. In my classes I feel like the professor would give us a lecture on a subject, then tell us ok go write a story. Then after writing the story they would tell us what we did wrong. I think we should know all the basics and work our way up to writing a well thought-out, researched story.</p>
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		<title>By: AndreaGenevieve</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1291</link>
		<dc:creator>AndreaGenevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan,

Many many great thoughts on this post, you have plenty of great ideas for the future of journalism education. I especially like your ideas about getting rid of the common &quot;track&quot; or &quot;major/minor&quot; within higher education. 
It makes sense to have a major, but not so much a specific concentration. I run a program out of GWU called the Semester in Washington Journalism Program (www.siwjournalism.org) We teach students how to take many communication skills into their internships and back to their home schools. Instead of taking a whole course on say video production, students explore multiple aspects of media at GWU while they are here for the semester. Each week we focus on a new set of skills, so its as if they are taking many mini media seminars, to learn how to become well rounded journalists.
Again great ideas from a superior J School. ASU is always at the front of J school Innovation I like your thoughts. I look forward to reading more! 
Best Andrea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan,</p>
<p>Many many great thoughts on this post, you have plenty of great ideas for the future of journalism education. I especially like your ideas about getting rid of the common &#8220;track&#8221; or &#8220;major/minor&#8221; within higher education.<br />
It makes sense to have a major, but not so much a specific concentration. I run a program out of GWU called the Semester in Washington Journalism Program (www.siwjournalism.org) We teach students how to take many communication skills into their internships and back to their home schools. Instead of taking a whole course on say video production, students explore multiple aspects of media at GWU while they are here for the semester. Each week we focus on a new set of skills, so its as if they are taking many mini media seminars, to learn how to become well rounded journalists.<br />
Again great ideas from a superior J School. ASU is always at the front of J school Innovation I like your thoughts. I look forward to reading more!<br />
Best Andrea</p>
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		<title>By: Donica Mensing</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1290</link>
		<dc:creator>Donica Mensing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this excellent post -- many great ideas. One of the questions I struggle with as we think about our j-school curriculum is your first assumption: that we should be great liberal arts programs. I believe this as an ideology, but in practice I worry that it&#039;s not accomplishing what we think it is:

1. Our students take courses in many disciplines but few understand how to connect the ideas they&#039;re building into any coherent understanding of the world. They aren&#039;t building broad knowledge as much as collecting credits from random courses. Journalism courses that worked to build those connections make might a huge difference. For example, they can take science and math courses, but have trouble translating that knowledge into explaining science or statistics well in stories. What are we missing?

2. If journalism is moving from mass distribution to niche publishing (as I think it is), then our students would be better served by going deep rather than broad. Perhaps this belongs in graduate school, but if our students want to create, or work for, community niche sites, they would do well to study communities and their dynamics deeply. If they want to do journalism for environmental/medical/art/health/business organizations, they would do better to become deeply familiar with those disciplines than superficially acquainted with many. Perhaps...

Thanks for sharing these ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this excellent post &#8212; many great ideas. One of the questions I struggle with as we think about our j-school curriculum is your first assumption: that we should be great liberal arts programs. I believe this as an ideology, but in practice I worry that it&#8217;s not accomplishing what we think it is:</p>
<p>1. Our students take courses in many disciplines but few understand how to connect the ideas they&#8217;re building into any coherent understanding of the world. They aren&#8217;t building broad knowledge as much as collecting credits from random courses. Journalism courses that worked to build those connections make might a huge difference. For example, they can take science and math courses, but have trouble translating that knowledge into explaining science or statistics well in stories. What are we missing?</p>
<p>2. If journalism is moving from mass distribution to niche publishing (as I think it is), then our students would be better served by going deep rather than broad. Perhaps this belongs in graduate school, but if our students want to create, or work for, community niche sites, they would do well to study communities and their dynamics deeply. If they want to do journalism for environmental/medical/art/health/business organizations, they would do better to become deeply familiar with those disciplines than superficially acquainted with many. Perhaps&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing these ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, this is a fine suggestion. I&#039;ll add it to the updated version of this post when I get all of the best suggestions together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy, this is a fine suggestion. I&#8217;ll add it to the updated version of this post when I get all of the best suggestions together.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Harris</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 14:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great ideas. If I were a chancellor you&#039;d be my next journalism dean. One suggestion, though, involves including journalism history in a relevant way. A bit self-serving, perhaps, since I&#039;ve written a history of the public-service Pulitzers. But I find in current curricula too little appreciation of what great journalism has done for society. To paraphrase Santayana just a bit: &quot;Those who cannot remember th past have no way in hell of repeating it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great ideas. If I were a chancellor you&#8217;d be my next journalism dean. One suggestion, though, involves including journalism history in a relevant way. A bit self-serving, perhaps, since I&#8217;ve written a history of the public-service Pulitzers. But I find in current curricula too little appreciation of what great journalism has done for society. To paraphrase Santayana just a bit: &#8220;Those who cannot remember th past have no way in hell of repeating it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Burley</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Burley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some schools did heed this advice -- yet they don&#039;t have the pedigree of Columbia. Editors gave tests on how to recast an article -- and never tested on how to interpret data. 

A good journalist needs to be part ethnographer (do any know what that means),  a diviner of secondary research, a psychologist to pull out 1st hand information, an acute understanding of virtual any subject, a keen business sense, ability to read a P&amp;L like a CFO, the logic of a lawyer -- and the ethics of a theologian. 

If there isn&#039;t a journo job waiting for them -- these would be the skills i would want in a great CEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some schools did heed this advice &#8212; yet they don&#8217;t have the pedigree of Columbia. Editors gave tests on how to recast an article &#8212; and never tested on how to interpret data. </p>
<p>A good journalist needs to be part ethnographer (do any know what that means),  a diviner of secondary research, a psychologist to pull out 1st hand information, an acute understanding of virtual any subject, a keen business sense, ability to read a P&amp;L like a CFO, the logic of a lawyer &#8212; and the ethics of a theologian. </p>
<p>If there isn&#8217;t a journo job waiting for them &#8212; these would be the skills i would want in a great CEO.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1284</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phelps, I don&#039;t think they have a link for the conference. It&#039;s basically a gathering of the Knight-Carnegie News21 schools, I gather.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phelps, I don&#8217;t think they have a link for the conference. It&#8217;s basically a gathering of the Knight-Carnegie News21 schools, I gather.</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps Hawkins</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Phelps Hawkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re seriously approaching a broad reworking of our JMC curriculum for a unique student group from 30+ former Communist countries.  I&#039;m having trouble finding this one-day conference on &quot;journalism education&quot; that you reference above.  Can you help me find a website for this conference?  I couldn&#039;t find reference to it on either Paley Center or Carnegie websites.

Many thanks,

Phelps S. Hawkins
Assistant Professor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re seriously approaching a broad reworking of our JMC curriculum for a unique student group from 30+ former Communist countries.  I&#8217;m having trouble finding this one-day conference on &#8220;journalism education&#8221; that you reference above.  Can you help me find a website for this conference?  I couldn&#8217;t find reference to it on either Paley Center or Carnegie websites.</p>
<p>Many thanks,</p>
<p>Phelps S. Hawkins<br />
Assistant Professor</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1281</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alisha,

I&#039;m not saying we have to show people how to consume media. We don&#039;t. But I do think we can help people learn how to &lt;em&gt;use&lt;/em&gt; media better. There&#039;s a big difference.

Love the wallet exercise...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alisha,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying we have to show people how to consume media. We don&#8217;t. But I do think we can help people learn how to <em>use</em> media better. There&#8217;s a big difference.</p>
<p>Love the wallet exercise&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/02/the-future-of-journalism-education/#comment-1280</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 17:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, I will do that elaboration. My understanding is that accredited programs require students to study more widely than just journalism. I love the idea of language training, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, I will do that elaboration. My understanding is that accredited programs require students to study more widely than just journalism. I love the idea of language training, too.</p>
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