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	<title>Comments on: Complicating Relationships in Media: Apple, NY Times Dealings Raise Questions</title>
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		<title>By: This Week in Review: What to do with web metrics, Google search goes Instant, and NPR&#8217;s local plans » Nieman Journalism Lab</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-4457</link>
		<dc:creator>This Week in Review: What to do with web metrics, Google search goes Instant, and NPR&#8217;s local plans » Nieman Journalism Lab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] angle to this as well, as Apple&#8217;s app store policies have generated a little bit of consternation in the past [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] angle to this as well, as Apple&#8217;s app store policies have generated a little bit of consternation in the past [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mediactive » NYT Columnist Sees Some Poisoned Apples, Misses the One Nearest Him</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-2087</link>
		<dc:creator>Mediactive » NYT Columnist Sees Some Poisoned Apples, Misses the One Nearest Him</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 16:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the specific case of the Times and Apple. Their relationship looks so close on the surface that it gives the appearance of a cross-promotional campaign for each others&#8217; products. Might it have been useful for Carr [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the specific case of the Times and Apple. Their relationship looks so close on the surface that it gives the appearance of a cross-promotional campaign for each others&#8217; products. Might it have been useful for Carr [...]</p>
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		<title>By: No Apple Today&#8230;- The Informational Barista</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-2025</link>
		<dc:creator>No Apple Today&#8230;- The Informational Barista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 02:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] However, another article I took interest in while doing research was written by Dan Gillmor over at Mediactive.com.  In the article he asks “Does Apple, which maintains control over what iPad apps are made [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] However, another article I took interest in while doing research was written by Dan Gillmor over at Mediactive.com.  In the article he asks “Does Apple, which maintains control over what iPad apps are made [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mediactive » Why I&#8217;m Selling My New York Times Co. Shares</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1935</link>
		<dc:creator>Mediactive » Why I&#8217;m Selling My New York Times Co. Shares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] days after I first raised the subject of the New York Times&#8217; complicated relationship(s) with Apple (follow-up here), I&#8217;ve finally received an answer, of sorts. Sadly, the answer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] days after I first raised the subject of the New York Times&#8217; complicated relationship(s) with Apple (follow-up here), I&#8217;ve finally received an answer, of sorts. Sadly, the answer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1928</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay, your incorrect and contradictory statements actually refute your argument.

First, car companies are not allowed to prevent third-party parts from being used in their vehicles. There are certainly quality control issues, but it&#039;s up to customers to make good choices. But if you couldn&#039;t use third-party parts, can you imagine what the original manufacturers would charge? 

Second, the fact that the Mac is fairly stable -- not &quot;rock solid&quot; -- doesn&#039;t help your case, given that it&#039;s open (as you later note) to software developers. You should be arguing for Apple to lock down the Mac as well to stay consistent. But that would cause you problems if someone couldn&#039;t write what you need for your Mac without Apple&#039;s approval, wouldn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, your incorrect and contradictory statements actually refute your argument.</p>
<p>First, car companies are not allowed to prevent third-party parts from being used in their vehicles. There are certainly quality control issues, but it&#8217;s up to customers to make good choices. But if you couldn&#8217;t use third-party parts, can you imagine what the original manufacturers would charge? </p>
<p>Second, the fact that the Mac is fairly stable &#8212; not &#8220;rock solid&#8221; &#8212; doesn&#8217;t help your case, given that it&#8217;s open (as you later note) to software developers. You should be arguing for Apple to lock down the Mac as well to stay consistent. But that would cause you problems if someone couldn&#8217;t write what you need for your Mac without Apple&#8217;s approval, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: jay</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does a car company allow anyone to create parts for that car without any form of control?
Get real. Apple is not a totalitarian government. 

For the most part it&#039;s quality control.

What if they allow flash and your iphone becomes slow and unstable. 
Who is that customer going to call? Will this customer complain about Adobe?
No it&#039;s an Apple device, so it&#039;s Apple&#039;s fault their iPhone sucks with flash.

Quality control. This is why OSX is a rock solid system.
This is why they can guarantee your MacOS,  iPhone and iPad will run stable.

I do find the paranoia of Apple by banning apps that &#039;critisize&#039; public figures a very concerning situation. 

I truely hope Apple won&#039;t go that road. 
But still, i would still run OSX for my Professional work.
Any software company can write software for OSX.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does a car company allow anyone to create parts for that car without any form of control?<br />
Get real. Apple is not a totalitarian government. </p>
<p>For the most part it&#8217;s quality control.</p>
<p>What if they allow flash and your iphone becomes slow and unstable.<br />
Who is that customer going to call? Will this customer complain about Adobe?<br />
No it&#8217;s an Apple device, so it&#8217;s Apple&#8217;s fault their iPhone sucks with flash.</p>
<p>Quality control. This is why OSX is a rock solid system.<br />
This is why they can guarantee your MacOS,  iPhone and iPad will run stable.</p>
<p>I do find the paranoia of Apple by banning apps that &#8216;critisize&#8217; public figures a very concerning situation. </p>
<p>I truely hope Apple won&#8217;t go that road.<br />
But still, i would still run OSX for my Professional work.<br />
Any software company can write software for OSX.</p>
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		<title>By: Apples karikaturstrid og avisenes fremtid &#124; Eiriks forfatterblogg</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1921</link>
		<dc:creator>Apples karikaturstrid og avisenes fremtid &#124; Eiriks forfatterblogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] eventuelle samarbeidsforhold med Apple vært på sin plass. Den har teknologiskribenten Dan Gillmor etterlyst fra Times&#8217; redaksjon en stund, så langt uten å få [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] eventuelle samarbeidsforhold med Apple vært på sin plass. Den har teknologiskribenten Dan Gillmor etterlyst fra Times&#8217; redaksjon en stund, så langt uten å få [...]</p>
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		<title>By: De lange arm van Apple &#171; De nieuwe reporter</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1920</link>
		<dc:creator>De lange arm van Apple &#171; De nieuwe reporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vervolgens veel aandacht aan de komst van de nieuwe tablet. Gillmor stelde een aantal kranten vragen over hun relatie met Apple. Zo wil hij weten of Apple eenzijdig apps van dagbladen kan weren als de [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vervolgens veel aandacht aan de komst van de nieuwe tablet. Gillmor stelde een aantal kranten vragen over hun relatie met Apple. Zo wil hij weten of Apple eenzijdig apps van dagbladen kan weren als de [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Apple, Kontrolle und Freiheit : Bernd Kling</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple, Kontrolle und Freiheit : Bernd Kling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] erscheint, dass die New York Times, das Wall Street Journal sowie USA Today bis heute nicht die Frage Dan Gillmors beantworten wollten: Hat Apple, das die Kontrolle aus&#252;bt &#252;ber die [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] erscheint, dass die New York Times, das Wall Street Journal sowie USA Today bis heute nicht die Frage Dan Gillmors beantworten wollten: Hat Apple, das die Kontrolle aus&#252;bt &#252;ber die [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Yontz</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/04/08/complicating-relationships-in-media-apple-ny-times-dealings-raise-questions/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Yontz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack Gallagher says it better and in more detail than I could recall, about how Apple has now become the hammer target instead of the hammer thrower.  Oh, how easily we become what we once criticized — it wasn&#039;t contempt, it was jealousy!  

Apple has become a very Chinese company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack Gallagher says it better and in more detail than I could recall, about how Apple has now become the hammer target instead of the hammer thrower.  Oh, how easily we become what we once criticized — it wasn&#8217;t contempt, it was jealousy!  </p>
<p>Apple has become a very Chinese company.</p>
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