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		<title>Comment on Why Journalism Organizations Should Reconsider Their Crush on Apple&#8217;s iPad by Ward Mundy</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/24/why-journalism-organizations-should-reconsider-their-crush-on-apples-ipad/#comment-1409</link>
		<dc:creator>Ward Mundy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long live the Soup Nazi.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Audio Editing on a Budget or Away from Home by Adobe Photoshop: Letting You Restore Old and Worn Out Photographs &#124; All About Family</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/03/04/audio-editing-on-a-budget-or-away-from-home/#comment-1397</link>
		<dc:creator>Adobe Photoshop: Letting You Restore Old and Worn Out Photographs &#124; All About Family</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 16:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mediactive » Audio Editing on a Budget or Away from Home [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Who&#8217;s the Hero? by Press muse &#8211; Love thyself, ignore thy neighbour &#171; Measured musings</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/11/23/whos-the-hero/#comment-1386</link>
		<dc:creator>Press muse &#8211; Love thyself, ignore thy neighbour &#171; Measured musings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] individuals who make extraordinary contributions to help others - the network forgot that Anderson Cooper was merely presenting the awards and not winning them. Amid their coverage of the Lufthansa strikes just last week, presenters shared compelling insight [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] individuals who make extraordinary contributions to help others - the network forgot that Anderson Cooper was merely presenting the awards and not winning them. Amid their coverage of the Lufthansa strikes just last week, presenters shared compelling insight [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on There are No &#8216;Spoilers&#8217; in News by Delia</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/17/there-are-no-spoilers-in-news/#comment-1380</link>
		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops... sorry... it actually posted correctly this time (the set-up is just confusing)  D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops&#8230; sorry&#8230; it actually posted correctly this time (the set-up is just confusing)  D.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There are No &#8216;Spoilers&#8217; in News by Delia</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/17/there-are-no-spoilers-in-news/#comment-1379</link>
		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there we go again... my 2nd post on this thread (well, 3rd if you consider the note I posted after the 1st one posted in the wrong place) appears to have posted in the wrong place... I was responding to Dan&#039;s comment about my 1st post.  D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there we go again&#8230; my 2nd post on this thread (well, 3rd if you consider the note I posted after the 1st one posted in the wrong place) appears to have posted in the wrong place&#8230; I was responding to Dan&#8217;s comment about my 1st post.  D.</p>
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		<title>Comment on There are No &#8216;Spoilers&#8217; in News by Delia</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/17/there-are-no-spoilers-in-news/#comment-1378</link>
		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry about the delay...

Seth, I see you are tilting at windmills as usual :) As far as I can tell, you are never going to get those things acknowledged... (mostly because they are true... *lol*)


Dan,

I&#039;m not sure if you grossly distorted what I said on purpose but it certainly looks like it...

here is what I said:

&quot;If the NYT ran a poll that showed that *the vast majority* of readers would prefer that info to be segregated somewhere where it could be easily avoided, would that matter to you?


I think it should!&quot; {emphasis just here to make my point]

and here is what you responded to Seth who brought up my post:

&quot;If the NYT doesn’t obey *a small number* of self-deluded readers in this case&quot; {my emphasis]

if at this point, you truly believe that it is laughable that the needs and wants of the users should be taken into consideration (that if the vast majority of long term readers would rather be able to read the paper version of the NYT without giving up the ability to watch the Olympic games without already knowing who won, the almighty NYT should just decline it...), I fear for the well being of your new project (you should have learned this basic lesson when your first project failed -- it&#039;s prohibitively expensive not to do so).

Delia

P.S. and let&#039;s not pretend the NYT has no financial interest in this... from the short term business POV, they would *love* to plaster that stuff on the front page asap so they would sell more copies of that particular issue. Horrible idea! if that would be pissing off the loyal long term paper readership...I&#039;m having a hard time believing you just don&#039;t get this. And to say they are just doing it in the interest of solid journalism! yeah, right... and I got a bridge to sell you! (in Brooklyn); this is the ind of stuff that has been bothering Seth for a long time -- as it should! D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry about the delay&#8230;</p>
<p>Seth, I see you are tilting at windmills as usual :) As far as I can tell, you are never going to get those things acknowledged&#8230; (mostly because they are true&#8230; *lol*)</p>
<p>Dan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if you grossly distorted what I said on purpose but it certainly looks like it&#8230;</p>
<p>here is what I said:</p>
<p>&#8220;If the NYT ran a poll that showed that *the vast majority* of readers would prefer that info to be segregated somewhere where it could be easily avoided, would that matter to you?</p>
<p>I think it should!&#8221; {emphasis just here to make my point]</p>
<p>and here is what you responded to Seth who brought up my post:</p>
<p>&#8220;If the NYT doesn’t obey *a small number* of self-deluded readers in this case&#8221; {my emphasis]</p>
<p>if at this point, you truly believe that it is laughable that the needs and wants of the users should be taken into consideration (that if the vast majority of long term readers would rather be able to read the paper version of the NYT without giving up the ability to watch the Olympic games without already knowing who won, the almighty NYT should just decline it&#8230;), I fear for the well being of your new project (you should have learned this basic lesson when your first project failed &#8212; it&#8217;s prohibitively expensive not to do so).</p>
<p>Delia</p>
<p>P.S. and let&#8217;s not pretend the NYT has no financial interest in this&#8230; from the short term business POV, they would *love* to plaster that stuff on the front page asap so they would sell more copies of that particular issue. Horrible idea! if that would be pissing off the loyal long term paper readership&#8230;I&#8217;m having a hard time believing you just don&#8217;t get this. And to say they are just doing it in the interest of solid journalism! yeah, right&#8230; and I got a bridge to sell you! (in Brooklyn); this is the ind of stuff that has been bothering Seth for a long time &#8212; as it should! D.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Archiving the News: Auto-Preserving Blogs by dan</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2009/09/04/archiving-the-news-auto-preserving-blogs/#comment-1377</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wouldnt believe how long ive been searching for something like this. Went through 5 pages of Google results couldnt find diddly squat. First page of bing. There you are!.... Really have to start using it more often!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wouldnt believe how long ive been searching for something like this. Went through 5 pages of Google results couldnt find diddly squat. First page of bing. There you are!&#8230;. Really have to start using it more often!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Old Guard Misses, Again, the Emerging Journalism Ecosystem by Sarah Hinchliff Pearson</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/24/the-old-guard-misses-again-the-emerging-journalism-ecosystem/#comment-1376</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Hinchliff Pearson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Dan. I thought On the Media&#039;s piece on this story was equally outdated, and I was surprised. Maybe Bob Garfield was just playing devil&#039;s advocate, but his questions about whether journalists should feel slighted because this award went to a non-journalist seemed to completely miss the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Dan. I thought On the Media&#8217;s piece on this story was equally outdated, and I was surprised. Maybe Bob Garfield was just playing devil&#8217;s advocate, but his questions about whether journalists should feel slighted because this award went to a non-journalist seemed to completely miss the point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Old Guard Misses, Again, the Emerging Journalism Ecosystem by Ron Ross</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/24/the-old-guard-misses-again-the-emerging-journalism-ecosystem/#comment-1375</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dan -  good blog! 
In our new book, Handbook for Citizen Journalists, we define four levels of journalism. The level of journalism Rappleye is referring to would be in the category of ACCIDENTAL journalist. Any citizen who treats an injured or ill person as an act of human decency is an ACCIDENTAL medic. In the same manner, any citizen who reports news from an unexpected event, is an ACCIDENTAL journalist. We know that citizens can be trained as journalists just as they can be trained as medics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dan &#8211;  good blog!<br />
In our new book, Handbook for Citizen Journalists, we define four levels of journalism. The level of journalism Rappleye is referring to would be in the category of ACCIDENTAL journalist. Any citizen who treats an injured or ill person as an act of human decency is an ACCIDENTAL medic. In the same manner, any citizen who reports news from an unexpected event, is an ACCIDENTAL journalist. We know that citizens can be trained as journalists just as they can be trained as medics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Journalism Organizations Should Reconsider Their Crush on Apple&#8217;s iPad by Dan Gillmor</title>
		<link>http://mediactive.com/2010/02/24/why-journalism-organizations-should-reconsider-their-crush-on-apples-ipad/#comment-1374</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Gillmor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apple is the Lexus of computers, not the Toyota. But it isn&#039;t just secretive to a point, it&#039;s secretive to a fault. This is at least partly about PR as opposed to necessity; consider how far ahead of time it announced the iPhone (FCC rules essentially forced them into the open earlier than they&#039;d have preferred) and how incredibly well that worked out for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple is the Lexus of computers, not the Toyota. But it isn&#8217;t just secretive to a point, it&#8217;s secretive to a fault. This is at least partly about PR as opposed to necessity; consider how far ahead of time it announced the iPhone (FCC rules essentially forced them into the open earlier than they&#8217;d have preferred) and how incredibly well that worked out for them.</p>
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